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Get it. It will literally save you from throwing your laptop out the window.

Get it. Tyson had it, it saved him. Josh didn't. It cost him a pretty penny and then he ended up getting it after all.

yes, having worked at a compusa for a year, i must say, get it. without it, you will literally get raped in the ass. Batterie dies - fucked. power adapter dies (that happens alot) - fucked. screen cracks - fucked. With applecare, it all goes away. so spend the 300 and get it.

1) Why are you buying an IntelMac now? Never buy the first gen of a new technology! I'm waiting until next year before I'm willing to buy one.

2) Totally get the warranty.

I buy warranties on all electronics I'm going to be unhappy about when they break. Heck, we even got a BestBuy warranty on our DDR pad that's good for 3 years. Considering that most pads will die before then, great deal.

Anyways, warranties are definitely worth it on Macs.

Eh, it doesn't feel so first-gen anymore. I have a few friends with MacBook Pros, and they haven't had any problems.

Uhhh, they are liers...There are tons of problems, which I could go in to if you want me to.

And you should get the warranty.

Can you go into it, actually? This might dramatically affect my decision.

Also, do you have a Win XP Pro disc with SP2 that I could borrow at some future point if necessary?

The main issue I have is the heat. The thing produces an insane amount of heat. The upshot of this is, you cannnot...CANNNOT use this thing on your lap. It's just not feasible. There also parts of it which get so hot, that touching them with your skin is quite uncomfortable (I can show you some time if you ever come by).

Other issues, there is a high pitch whinning noise at all times. Some people have come up with hacks to get around it, but no one hack seems to work for everyone yet.

There is the "mooing" sound. I haven't actually noticed this, but many people complain that one of the fans has an issue where it will start up and stop about every 3 seconds creating a mooing type sound. It's probably happening on mine and I just don't listen for it.

THe wireless BLOWS. When it's not dropping the signal, it's range for wireless is poor. The dropping the signal thing was a lot worse, until they released an update which seems to have made it a little better

Did I mention the heat? It's a really big problem. Especially now that it is warm out, the thing is a little uncomfortable to use, due to the fact that one of the places that heats up on the thing is where you would rest your left wrist while typing.

In terms of the whinning and the wireless, I have heard that apple has a new main circuit board which gets rid of these defects, but I have not heard any official word or anything

Conclusion? Hold off. Wait for the next versions. Also, why do you want a mac when everything else you work with is windows? Just curious.

And yes I have an XP SP2 disc you could use at some point in the future

I'd want a Mac because they have good hardware, fake linux support (i.e. I can run command line things when I really want to), good tech support, and Boot Camp. Plus they happen to be the cheapest sub-14" computers around (though I so wish they had a 12" line still).

I'll wait to hear from my friends with non-Pro MacBooks about whether these issues are still present. Thanks for alerting me about them.

When I first heard about bootcamp, I thought it would be awesome. But now what it is out, and I have a MacBook pro, I found I didn't really care. Why would I want to boot windows on my macbook pro?
What I found infinitely more helpful is the parallels virtual machine software. Now I can run XP inside of OSX, and it runs ridiculously fast. I dunno how they do it (leprachauns perhaps?) but it goes fast.

Sounds like Xen. I'd probably try both that and BootCamp. But in any case, didn't I answer your "hy do you want a mac when everything else you work with is windows" question?

I'm going to agree with the others, definitely get the warranty. I worked as a mac tech in a university computer store for a couple of years, and you wouldn't believe the number of computers that people had to just give up on because it was past the 1-year included warranty. Applecare bumps it out to 3, and for any computer (laptops especially) there's a good chance that it'll need warranty repair within three years.

VERY!

Don't know nothin' about no Macs, but I got a refurbished laptop that's travelling around Spain with me. It isn't the greatest processor, but is super-light, the battery lasts for 3+ hours, and it cost me $625. So yeah, I'm a fan of the refurbish bin.

I got a MacBook about a month ago and I've been quite happy with it. I haven't found that it's gotten too hot, but I think it does get a little warmer than my old iBook. I have encountered the mooing problem, but it is only noticeable when I'm using the microphone to record things. Yeah, it is kind of annoying. One thing you might want to keep in mind is that MacBooks do not have good graphics cards. I haven't encountered any problems, but I haven't tried to run any graphics-heavy programs yet. Still, if you're going to be playing games or doing lots of video editing, you might want to reconsider getting a MacBook. It seems to blaze through everything else, though.

Definitely get AppleCare. I had repeated problems with my iBook's screen--it had to be replaced twice, which was totally free under AppleCare. Actually, if I hadn't had such good experience with AppleCare (it saved me well over $1,000 and the service was extremely prompt), I would not have been willing to risk the potential problems associated with a first-generation machine.

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