It's time for a change

[desh]

[Poll #1496312]

EDIT: OK, those of you who picked both "twenty ten" and "two thousand eleven" have some explaining to do.

Comments

[sleepsong.livejournal.com]

You forgot "both."

[desh]

YOU MUST CHOOSE.

[sleepsong.livejournal.com]

Well, since technically "both" is an "other" answer...

[marnanel.livejournal.com]

I'm British: two thousand AND nine.

[desh]

Huh, never realized that was an acrossthepondism.

[leftyjew.livejournal.com]

correct me if i'm wrong, but i think in the USA, we use "and" to mean /\d*([.]\d*)?/, and Brits use it for /\d+?0*\d+?/.
Translation:
USA = "point"
UK = "zero"

[leftyjew.livejournal.com]

correction: first regex should be /\d*([.]\d+)?/

[marnanel.livejournal.com]

I think you are correct. You can do [.] in fewer characters as \. though.

[leftyjew.livejournal.com]

i wanted it to be easier to read?

[leftyjew.livejournal.com]

ooh, and the first should be /\d+?0+\d+?/

[(Anonymous)]

twenty eleven leaves two vowel sounds together, fixed either by eliding into twenty 'leven or by inserting a glottal stop, two thousand eleven doesn't need any repair, neither does twenty ten.

-charley

[twostepsfwd.livejournal.com]

two thousand AND nine

[smarriveurr.livejournal.com]

I think I can only refer to what happened in "aught nine" after I get more grizzled. Right now, I can only use the similar phrases ironically.

Frankly, I tend not to use the "two thousand/twenty" part at all, as when I say "that was back in oh-four", it's usually clear I mean 2004.

without resorting to IPA

[rahaeli.livejournal.com]

"twenty" "ten" -- two discrete units, rolling into each other in terms of stresses.

"twenty" "eleven" -- two discrete units, but the dual unstressed syllables with the same vowel sound (in my dialect at least) between the liminal boundaries come out sounding like a hiccup and trip your tonge; native english speakers don't often find dual unstressed syllables bookended by stressed syllables natural where the unstressed vowel sound is identical or near-identical: "TWEHN-teee eee-LEH-vuhn" is not a natural occurrance in my dialect (speakers contort things so they don't have to use them whenever possible), so it's either slur (TWEHN-tee-LEH-vun) or make it into "TWO THOU-suhnd-eee-LEH-vun".

(Note that the 'eee' in 'eleven' is slightly more midvowel than the "eee" in "twenty", but close enough, in my dialect.)

Re: without resorting to IPA

[desh]

I don't think I ever have the "eee" sound in an unstressed syllable. It's certainly a schwa for me in this case. But my main reason for "twenty eleven" is that I think we have to make the switch to "twenty" at some point, and avoiding a 6-syllable year name is a great point to choose!

[goob712.livejournal.com]

I get to hear people say "Oh Ten" all the time. It makes me smile.

[intangiblehugs.livejournal.com]

yeah i definitely just say oh-nine most of the time... i may start saying oh-ten too :)

[krisispm.livejournal.com]

I think the "Twenty" format doesn't work on "Eleven" because:
a) two adjacent vowel sounds
b) eleven being three syllables

At work we already say "Twenty-Twelve."