desh ([personal profile] desh) wrote2008-06-02 10:38 am

politics (and a great link)

OK, I haven't been posting about politics much, partly because I'm trying to save my energy for the fall.

Since I haven't been talking about it, I'll first get my opinions out of the way in two paragraphs. As for the Democratic primary, I've felt all along that the most important thing is to get a Democrat in the White House in 2009. This hasn't changed one whit. If we want to get out of Iraq, end the tax cuts for the rich, move toward universal health care, keep the American middle class from dying a slow death, address poverty, keep abortion legal, and not have an irretrievably right-wing supreme court for the next generation, we need someone in the White House with a (D) after that person's name. The details of who that person is matter much less. This is a consequence of the American political system that I feel is unfortunate but real.

I've supported Obama for several months. I've liked his policies a bit more than any other candidate's ever since I made this decision in late winter. Clinton was pretty close for me at one point, but the tipping point then and since was that I think Clinton is more entrenched in the inside-the-beltway world, with lobbyists and a lack of grassroots, crashing-the-gate-style support. Since April, I especially haven't liked how she's campaigned. I am not sexist. Back when I supported Dodd and Edwards a bit more than Obama, I was not racist either. However, I feel that Clinton has been right to stay in the race up until now, and I feel that her presence in the race has been a net plus for the Democratic party as a whole and the Democrats' chances in this race in November in particular.

Now, the main reason for this post is to link you to a site that I found recently and loved, http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/. The author of this blog recently revealed himself to be Nate Silver, an employee of Baseball Prospectus, my favorite baseball website of all time. Nate and the other BP guys revolutionized the way I (and many others) look at baseball, by taking statistical analysis and performance measurement to a level of rigor never seen before. Nate has apparently been blogging about politics in the same way.

A few good links from FiveThirtyEight from the past few days: a popular vote calculator where you get to pick the counting method and it counts the votes for you, a discussion of the turnout in the Michigan primary, and a detailed calculation of how many delegates are needed to win the nomination and how the media might be a bit off.

Feel free to leave comments to this post, though I warn you that I probably won't participate too long in a discussion about policy or campaign strategy. As I said, I'm trying to save my energy. It would be bad if I exhaust my limited interest in this stuff over the next few months, and have no energy left in the fall to help the Dems win the White House.

[identity profile] metalphoenix.livejournal.com 2008-06-03 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
So yes, essentially same thing. The voters are fucked over because the state leaders are asses. Saying "oh, I know it's not really your fault, but we had to do something about the decisions a handful of people made for you" doesn't make things ok or ease the minds of anyone. Both sides did really stupid things in this whole regard. The state party's mistakes are obvious, and you've named them. As for the National party, they should have made a decision and stayed with it. Randomly changing their minds mid-election season only casts doubt on any of the decisions. If they wanted to discard the votes and said so in the beginning, then they should have STUCK WITH THAT PLAN. You can't just give voters incorrect information and then use those votes to decide things.

Even if it wasn't decided directly, the HUGE gap between Clinton and Obama (considering the way the other states have been going - it IS huge) is proof of a ballot skew. That's not debatable. You can't just decide "oh, well the election is REALLY close and Clinton's throwing a fit, so I guess we'll count you guys now." I think that's what I'm more upset about, really. I understood the decision when it was first made; changing things around just because things are getting narrow only makes me think the party's comprised of people who can't agree or reconcile their differences for the sake of the election or the party's interest.

I'm still voting democrat in the election because I'm scarily liberal... but how many others will?

[identity profile] jdcohen.livejournal.com 2008-06-04 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Thankfully, I think more people will vote Democratic in this election than are now projected. As I'm typing, Obama is giving his "presumptive nominee acceptance speech", as he's reached and surpassed the necessary delegates to win the nomination.

You are right - the DNC ideally should have stuck with their original punishment, but I think since Obama has literally locked this nomination up, it's a moot point. I'm glad he's made it a moot point, because if Florida and Michigan were the crux of a victory or defeat for either candidate, then the Democrats would be in a WHOLE lot of trouble. As it is, since those two issues have become moot, I think we can safely sweept them under the rug and start the push for the general. And really, I think we can win. No, I know we can win. This election is, as of right now, ours to lose - so let's get in gear and try not to fuck things up!

--Jeff

[identity profile] metalphoenix.livejournal.com 2008-06-04 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed... the hard part is just beginning!