desh ([personal profile] desh) wrote2004-04-22 12:23 am

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A fun hypothetical question I was thinking about today...

[Poll #282698]
dorchadas: (Default)

Well...

[personal profile] dorchadas 2004-04-21 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, yes. He's my friend. However, voting for him and campaigning for him would be A) a kind of reverse nepotism and B) a betrayal of my own political beliefs. Voting for people just because they're your friends isn't at all the point of the political system.

[identity profile] krisispm.livejournal.com 2004-04-22 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I pride myself on staying true to my personal politics, so i voted my gut -- neither vote or campaign for him. To avoid this decision having a negative effect on the friendship, i might frame it to him as follows: You know that our friendship has never been affected by our disagreement on politics, and its because of that i don't want to get involved in your political life. I'm always here if you need an ear, a hug, or a good devil's advocate.

Why do you ask

[identity profile] bumonyou.livejournal.com 2004-04-22 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
are you about to run on the "spend social security on candy" platform?


Mmmm candy. Maybe you would have my vote

call me a cynic

[identity profile] conana.livejournal.com 2004-04-22 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
But my friends actually believe their political positions, which is a great improvement over my impression of most politicians. That said, I doubt I would either vote or campaign for em.

[identity profile] jdcohen.livejournal.com 2004-04-22 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
Call me crazy ("Mr. Crazy!"), but if I haven't already alienated all of my "politically wayward" friends, then they can probably tolerate my not voting and not campaigning for them. I'm glad to see that everyone else is unwilling to compromise their beliefs for cheap, short-term gains. Friendship is an institution that has nothing to do with one's political views - so paying for friendship in the coin of political support is very harmful indeed, both to friendship as a concept (Nerdspeak: the "Friendship Class") and to the friendship in question (Nerdspeak: an "Instance Object Of The Friendship Class").

--Jeff

[identity profile] jre.livejournal.com 2004-04-22 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I once got my little brother annoyed when I told him that before voting for him I would have to see what his platform was. But I stand by it.

[identity profile] ladypeaches.livejournal.com 2004-04-23 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
As one of your few friends who actually disagrees with you. I think it depends on how much influence i had on this friend. If I thought that this friend would listen to me or to others in my possition and critically make a decission including my thoughts then I might vote for him. If I think this person was set in his ideas then no I wouldn't vote for him. I would not help him campain but I am sure I would help him raise money.

[identity profile] intangiblehugs.livejournal.com 2004-04-26 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
I would add a fifth option: neither vote nor campaign for him, but privately support him in taking on the challenge.

[identity profile] below-the-belt.livejournal.com 2004-04-28 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
These are all fascinating arguments, and I voted for the last option which seems to be a popular one. And yes, I'd support my friend in taking on this challenge, and hopefully that friend would engage with me in arguments of political nature [as most of my friends so obligingly do], and perhaps take into account my opinions.

But the real kicker for me is: why the male pronouns?
[I know, Desh, you're shocked that I would bring such a thing to light. Totally uncharacteristic. See you in a couple weeks.]