desh ([personal profile] desh) wrote2009-04-28 12:13 pm

ARLEN!!!!

Yay, Senator Specter! Thanks for doing the right thing! (And now I can honestly say that the vote I cast 5 years ago was for a senator who is a Democrat. Yay!!!)

[identity profile] conana.livejournal.com 2009-04-28 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
That's awesome. I knew Specter had a pretty decent voting record, but I thought he was old guard Republican. And "Democratic leaning state"? Have things gotten better down there?

[identity profile] dagoski.livejournal.com 2009-04-28 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Go skeptical centrists, go! I don't think this will give an automatic pass for all the great ideas coming out of the whitehouse. Rather, his conversion will probably just mean they're examined more closely by a friendly audience. Specter's return will have the benefit of locking out the kook vote, though. And that's a very good thing.

[identity profile] smarriveurr.livejournal.com 2009-04-28 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that nowadays, if you're a center-leaning reasonable Republican, the Democratic party is actually more appealing as a support network than what the Neocons have made of the GOP. They've spent years trying to galvanize the right instead of wooing the center, and while working with them might have been necessary during their majority, with the pendulum now swinging leftwards, working with the Dems is more likely to accomplish centrist goals.

(Anonymous) 2009-04-28 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem with the Republican party isn't the neocons. It's the Christian Right.

[identity profile] jdcohen.livejournal.com 2009-04-29 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Technically, I think you should thank Snarlin' Arlen for doing the left thing.

But, talking seriously for a second (which I never do), Pennsylvania has been trending more Democratic for the past 9 or so years. It is somewhat an effect of the Republican Party's shift further to the right (and the accompanying shift of the Democratic Party towards the center), but it is also a function of demographics. Pennsylvania has one of the highest proportions of senior citizen populations of any other state - a lot of which are those old-guard Republicans. Not only are the younger demographics more Democratic-leaning than these seniors, well, how to put it delicately... fuck it, there is no delicate here, these seniors are DYING OFF. At a faster rate than those more-Democratic-leaning whippersnappers.

So, you've got a shift among the youth toward the Democratic Party, you've got the Republican Party ceding the middle-ground to the Democrats, AND you've got a dwindling population of old-school older Republicans... all of which spells trouble for the state's Republican Party. Throw in some really pissed-off Unions, a recession largely (and largely rightfully) blamed on the Republican Party, and a still-incredibly-popular and charismatic President... and it really, REALLY sucks to be a Republican right now. For reals, y'all.

Also, this isn't Specter's first rodeo with the Democrats - he's actually switching back. Specter was a Democrat until 1966 when he wanted to run for District Attorney and the Democratic Party didn't want him, so he switched affiliation and has been a Republican ever since... until now. So, it's not so much a Coming-Out Party as it is a Homecoming. Welcome back, Arlen.

--Jeff

[identity profile] jdcohen.livejournal.com 2009-04-29 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, I doubt Arlen's voting patterns will change all that much on major issues (he's still against the Employee Free Choice Act, by the way, which pisses off the Unions who vowed to sink him if he voted against it)... however, the real benefit to having Arlen be a Democrat on paper is that he'll support Democratic procedural maneuvers, such as cloture.

Cloture is a fancy parliamentary term for "shut the fuck up and let's vote already" (I believe it's French*). Basically, with Arlen as Senator #59 and the WTF-get-over-with-it-already-and-seat-the-damned-guy Franken as #60, the Democrats have enough votes to stop ongoing debates in the Senate and force an up-or-down vote on an issue. Even if Arlen votes against the Democrats on the up-or-down votes, he'll face enormous Democratic Party pressure to vote for cloture, because otherwise he'll have his privileges (such as possible chairmanships of the Judiciary or Appropriations committees, earmarks for pet projects in Pennsylvania, and of course, a primo Senate office) revoked. So, I'm not nearly as excited about his changing from a moderate Republican to a moderate Democrat (since that will likely not affect his up-or-down voting), but I am VERY excited about his changing parties from a purely procedural standpoint. And that's not even mentioning how he can help us on Senate committees and lobbying his moderate Republican colleagues to break rank more often.

--Jeff

* No, it's not French. The French for "cloture" is "clôtúre".

[identity profile] platypuses.livejournal.com 2009-04-29 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's really sad, actually, because I was hoping the Republican party would eventually reform from within as long as there were reasonable people like Specter in it. See Snowe (one of the two AWESOME Maine senators)'s op-ed in the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/opinion/29snowe.html?_r=1 . I agree with practically everything she says in there.