ext_112187 ([identity profile] metalphoenix.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] desh 2008-06-03 10:18 pm (UTC)

I actually knew the situation, but thanks :) Either way, I'm still going to have to disagree.

Namely because, how is any of that the voters' fault? The state party made these decisions and the voters paid for them. There are a lot of things that could have gone differently in the whole process. From the beginning, the national party could have punished the state party directly without throwing away votes of the actual citizens who have a right to be heard. A party fine perhaps, or even stating from the beginning that the votes would count as half. Even that wouldn't have skewed results like this whole "my vote won't count so why bother" mentality. It would have created a more accurate representation of the state's delegate choice - because as you said with only Hillary on the ticket it's not even a fair election.

What's going on right now is also completely wrong. It's clear the Michigan Primary does not actually reflect the opinion of the voters for a multitude of reasons - they were told their votes wouldn't count from the beginning and this affected the turnout, the only candidate on the ballet was Hillary which effects the number of delegates she really earned, none of the candidates were able to directly address any of Michigan's concerns, creating apathy for many of the voters - the list goes on. So why in the world are they all of a sudden using these VERY SKEWED results at the national convention? It doesn't matter if it's the National Party or the State Party that's at fault, it's still an awful decision. I'd almost rather not have the votes count at all than have inaccurate voting. At least then the information the voters had in the beginning would remain the same.

And finally, no matter how pissed the National Party was at the State Party, they should have looked at things in the long term. How many independents and weak democrats are going to be turned off by this whole debacle and vote instead for a party that seems to actually be cohesive or be apathetic to the whole process and not vote at all? Being told your votes won't count doesn't exactly incite warm feelings to a party. With the way the state is faring right now, it's not a sure Democratic win anymore and I don't think the Party understood that. Michigan has traditionally been on their side with their abundance of union workers and general political lean - but with the automotive industry breaking down and the Democratic Senator not being able to do much about it (whether it's her fault or not doesn't matter to disenfranchised voters) - this whole thing probably wasn't the best way to get on their good side.

Regardless, the whole issue here is the system. The State Party made a choice that the National Party didn't like, so they made a choice, and then unmade the choice after-the-fact. The voters have been thrown around by these institutions, completely ignorant of goings-on until it happens, and that's not at all what the point of an election is, is it?

That of course leads into my whole deal with the delegate nomination process - but that's a whole other issue. So, yeah. Anyway.

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